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single visit veneers


Doing veneers in a single visit with CEREC still blows me away.  These are e.max MT, with the case completed in 2.5 hours (with 2 mills).


Looks great-

biocopy from wax up or straight biogeneric?


Awesome.  I just replaced a missing single veneer that were previously lab fabricated.  Everyone won that day!

Nice work Dan.


Awesome result, Dan. Having 2 milling units is great.

Out of curiosity, with the amount of decay present on this patient, did you consider crowns instead of veneers? My concern would be the 8 miles of margin at risk for future decay with the veneer (when compared to a crown) as well as the fact that you would've been bonding a veneer to dentin due to the destruction caused from the original decay. 

Ben


Beautiful work!
I agree with Ben!
Lower anterior teeth are less susceptible to caries compare to other group of teeth. There is also a study link interproximal caries of lower anteriors to ovarian cancer. Gregory

On 2/8/2018 at 7:21 am, Gregory Mark said... Beautiful work!
I agree with Ben!
Lower anterior teeth are less susceptible to caries compare to other group of teeth. There is also a study link interproximal caries of lower anteriors to ovarian cancer. Gregory

Wait... what?


On 2/8/2018 at 7:12 am, Ben Jump said...

Awesome result, Dan. Having 2 milling units is great.

Out of curiosity, with the amount of decay present on this patient, did you consider crowns instead of veneers? My concern would be the 8 miles of margin at risk for future decay with the veneer (when compared to a crown) as well as the fact that you would've been bonding a veneer to dentin due to the destruction caused from the original decay. 

Ben

Honestly, these are more like 3/4 crowns than veneers.  I did a very minimal prep around the facial margin, was pretty aggressive interproximally where the decay was, and had a thick band of enamel on the lingual to bond to about half way down the tooth.  I feel more comfortable long term having facial and lingual enamel to bond to with this prep as opposed to a full crown that would for sure be all dentin and a very short tooth. 


On 2/8/2018 at 7:21 am, Gregory Mark said... Beautiful work!
I agree with Ben!
Lower anterior teeth are less susceptible to caries compare to other group of teeth. There is also a study link interproximal caries of lower anteriors to ovarian cancer. Gregory

Thanks Gregory, I don't think this gentleman needs to worry about ovarian cancer :)


On 2/8/2018 at 6:07 am, Brad Dorsch said...

Looks great-

biocopy from wax up or straight biogeneric?

Thanks Brad.  These were biogenirc with a great proposal right out of the gate.  I did keep a biocopy foider of the original teeth to make sure I didn't shift the midline.


On 2/8/2018 at 9:53 am, Daniel Butterman said...
On 2/8/2018 at 7:12 am, Ben Jump said...

Awesome result, Dan. Having 2 milling units is great.

Out of curiosity, with the amount of decay present on this patient, did you consider crowns instead of veneers? My concern would be the 8 miles of margin at risk for future decay with the veneer (when compared to a crown) as well as the fact that you would've been bonding a veneer to dentin due to the destruction caused from the original decay. 

Ben

Honestly, these are more like 3/4 crowns than veneers.  I did a very minimal prep around the facial margin, was pretty aggressive interproximally where the decay was, and had a thick band of enamel on the lingual to bond to about half way down the tooth.  I feel more comfortable long term having facial and lingual enamel to bond to with this prep as opposed to a full crown that would for sure be all dentin and a very short tooth. 

I'm that way too on lower anteriors....if there is ANY way to save the cingulum, I do it.  Enamel to bond to and strength for a very small/thin tooth.  Nicely done Dan.


On 2/8/2018 at 9:59 am, Ernie Johnson said...
On 2/8/2018 at 9:53 am, Daniel Butterman said...
On 2/8/2018 at 7:12 am, Ben Jump said...

Awesome result, Dan. Having 2 milling units is great.

Out of curiosity, with the amount of decay present on this patient, did you consider crowns instead of veneers? My concern would be the 8 miles of margin at risk for future decay with the veneer (when compared to a crown) as well as the fact that you would've been bonding a veneer to dentin due to the destruction caused from the original decay. 

Ben

Honestly, these are more like 3/4 crowns than veneers.  I did a very minimal prep around the facial margin, was pretty aggressive interproximally where the decay was, and had a thick band of enamel on the lingual to bond to about half way down the tooth.  I feel more comfortable long term having facial and lingual enamel to bond to with this prep as opposed to a full crown that would for sure be all dentin and a very short tooth. 

I'm that way too on lower anteriors....if there is ANY way to save the cingulum, I do it.  Enamel to bond to and strength for a very small/thin tooth.  Nicely done Dan.

I'm with you both. I'm a cingulum saver as well. I call 3/4 crowns, "crowns." You call 3/4 crowns, "veneers". We're on the same page!  Beautiful result.


awesome....


I'd like to find out more about that study, linking lower anterior decay to ovarian cancer.


What material did you use?


On 3/24/2018 at 6:33 am, Edward Chappelle Jr said... What material did you use?

e.max MT.


Beautiful!!!


Glad this worked its way up to the top again... because they ARE beautiful!

Mark


Nice result, you are really taking care great care of your patients. The thing I find the most difficult on these cases is handling the interproximal contacts. Did you use a model to refine them, or freehand in the mouth? 


Thanks for all the great comments!

Marc, I agree about the contacts.  For this case, I opened up the contacts fully with a fairly aggressive interproximal prep (mainly due to the decay),  I find it easier to control the contacts this way by just making them a little heavier (all green) than I normally would for a couple of posterior crowns.  I struggle more when I’m overly conservative and don’t fully open the contacts. By double checking the insertion axis and making them similar, I really needed minimal to no adjusting in the mouth.  I also try and seat them all at the same time when I bond.